Are interrogation or horary charts as simple as finding an aspect or not? If the Lord of the Ascendant is in the Seventh, will your lover propose?

Quite a few people think horary charts are as simple as looking for an aspect and saying yay, or nay.

However, aspects have several layers of interpretation which must be considered: application or separation, dominance, prohibition, and so on.

Let us consider a horary reading done earlier this year. The querent, Dimitra, asked me whether she would be offered a job she was being interviewed for.

I cast the chart for the time and date that I read her question. Dimitra\’s chart is displayed with house division; however, for topical analysis, I only use whole-sign houses. Please note that I do not utilise the tropical zodiac and I also use mean nodes.

In interrogation charts, the rising sign and its lord denotes the querent. The matter asked about is known as the quesited and will be represented by the appropriate house and its lord. As the Moon is the general significator of events and developments, she can be co-significator of the querent, providing that she is not the ruler of the quesited.

Our chart has Cancer rising, which means that the Moon is Dimitra’s significator. In terms of considerations before judgement, the chart is radical. It was cast during the hour of Moon, who is both the ruler of Cancer and is one of the trigon lords of the water signs.

The Moon is in the second house, and thus in aversion to the first house. If the client’s significator(s) is in aversion to the first, we know that the matter is not within the client’s control.

In horary readings, I always calculate the twelfth part of the ascendant, which falls 6° Aries in the tenth. Dimitra’s question concerns employment, which is a tenth house subject[1]. Hephastio of Thebes tells us that the twelfth part of an ascendant between 22.5° – 25° Cancer concerns, “Rulership and rank and a priesthood and what is like that.”[2]

Now, will Dimitra be offered the job? To ascertain this, we need to determine whether there is a manner of bringing together the querent and the quesited. Such can be achieved either through direct aspect or transference of light.

Here, we see straight away that the Moon at 27° Leo (querent) and Mars at 27° Aries (quesited) are in a tight trine. So close, there is less than a minute to perfection. That itself is significant: it means the aspect is still an applying one. A separating aspect would infer a parting, e.g. being turned down, let go, it was not the right ‘fit’. So, yes, we can be reasonably confident that Dimitra will be offered the job… but one does not stop there.

We must also consider whether the Moon is aspecting any other planet. If she were, and this aspect perfected before the trine to Mars, that would ‘frustrate’ the trine. There is no case of frustration, here. Mars is not stationing so there is also no prohibition (when a planet retrograde motion prohibits the aspect perfecting). The Moon squares Jupiter but this does not perfect until after the trine to Mars.

However, we note that the Moon is at 27° Leo. She has less than 3° before she will move until Virgo. As the Moon is the swiftest of the seven stars, that will occur within hours. Once the Moon enters Virgo, she will be in aversion to the tenth place.

Such an act is significant. In my experience, it means the querent will turn the offer down or accept something else.

We can note, here, that the Moon\’s previous completed aspect was a trine to Saturn. Saturn is the ruler of both Capricorn and Aquarius. In this chart, Capricorn is the seventh house which would be the other candidates or competition. Technically, this is a translation of light between Saturn and Mars via the Moon.

Ultimately, Dimitra’s question is whether she would be offered the job. My answer was, yes. However, one also advised her that the chart indicated that she would decline the role and it would subsequently be offered to another candidate.

Such was the case. Shortly after being offered the job, Dimitra received a better offer from her current employer. When the Moon enters Virgo, she begins to apply by opposition to the Sun in the ninth. The Sun is the exalted ruler of the tenth and its trigon lord.

As the aspect between the Moon and Mars was so close to perfection, I advised Dimitra that she should hear within the day (the chart was cast for 14:10 hrs, Mayfair, London). I was told by Dimitra (two days after casting the chart) that she had received the offer that evening and withdrew two days afterwards.

I sought Dimitra\’s permission to post her chart after a discussion with one of my Tarot de Marseille students, who is getting into horary. The student said something akin to horary being a case of finding an aspect or not and pronouncing yes or no, respectively. Such a belief is common but baseless.

As you can see, one must consider several factors and the nature of the quesited can also influence how a judgement is decided. A chart concerning sickness is hugely different to that of a lost item, or curses and witchcraft.

If one is interested in interrogation charts, there are several avenues of exploration. I started with Derek Appleby and William Lilly’s Christian Astrology (Books I&II)[3] and. These days, I recommend John Frawley’s The Horary Textbook and Christopher Warnock Warnock’s Horary Case Book. However, my favourite horary authors are al-Kindī[4] and Sahl[5], and I recommend Benjamin Dykes’ translations of their works. Dykes’ translation of Bonatti[6] is also worth reading.

Journal of a Fortune-Teller © abCartomancy 2010 – 2021


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Chart, Delphic Oracle.

[1]During the twentieth century, it became fashionable to associate work with the sixth place. Such an association has neither basis nor merit. Averse to the ascendant, it is a dark place and titled bad fortune (Brennan, 2017). Valens description states it is the place of “slaves, injuries, hostility, disease, sickness (Riley, Translation).” The slaves referenced were those of the client. Consequently, however menial a job, you are not your own slave. These days, the sixth would be those you employ.

[a]Brennan, C. (2017). Hellenistic Astrology: The Study of Fate and Fortune. 1st ed. Denver, Colorado: Amor Fati Publications, p.323, 340 – 351.
[b]Valens, V. (2010). Anthologies (Riley, Translation), PDF: p. 80.

[2]Hermann of Carinthia and Dykes, B. (2011). The Search of the Heart. 1st ed. Minneapolis, MN: Cazimi Press, p.201.
[3] Lilly, W. and Roell, D. (2004). Christian Astrology. Bel Air, Md.: Astrology Classics.
[4]Dykes, B. and al-Kindī (2011). The Forty Chapters of a-Kindī. 1st ed. Minneapolis, Minn.: Cazimi Press, p.134.
[5]Dykes, B. (2011). The Book of the Nine Judges. 1st ed. Minneapolis, MN: Cazimi Press.
[6] Bonatti, G. and Dykes, B. (2010). Bonatti on Horary: Guido Boannti’s Book of Astronomy Treatise 6: On Questions. Minneapolis, MN: Cazimi Press.

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